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Tombstone

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Rule change vote
« on: November 02, 2019, 08:54:05 AM »
We are going to test a new voting process for SASS, we are looking at changing the rule about leaving the loading table with a cocked rifle. This is rifle only. Here is the wording on the rule change. Please read it and chime in if you would like to. I will be taking a vote at the next shoot one the 9th

VOTING ITEM INFORMATION
Proposed rule change:
Eliminate the automatic Stage DQ penalty for leaving the loading table with a cocked rifle.
In such instances, the shooter will be directed to point the rifle safely into the back berm, bring the hammer to full cock if it is in the half-cock/safety position, then pull the trigger.
If no round is fired, the shooter will be directed to finish staging firearms in order to start the stage (No Call).
If a round fires when the shooter pulls the trigger, the shooter will be assessed a Stage DQ and directed to proceed to the unloading table
 
Current rules/penalties:
Movement is not allowed with a loaded round under the hammer of any firearm. Movement is defined by the basketball “traveling” rule. Whenever a shooter has a loaded round under the hammer of a firearm in hand, at least one foot must remain in place on the ground. The first violation will result in a Stage Disqualification penalty. The second violation will result in a Match Disqualification penalty assessment. It is also not allowed to leave the loading table with a cocked, loaded firearm.
SHB p.12 – Participant Conduct - Safety
- Rifles may be staged with the magazine loaded, action closed, hammer fully down on the empty chamber (NOT the safety notch), with the muzzle pointing in a safe direction (adheres to the 170° rule).
SHB p.15 – Safety and Handling Conventions - Rifles
- Changing location/moving with a live round under a cocked hammer or firearm with the hammer down on a live round.
- Changing location with a long gun with the action closed and the hammer cocked.
SHB p.23 – Stage Disqualification Penalty (SDQ)
 
Definitions:
Cocked – hammer not fully down (full, half-cock or safety notch).
SHB P.43 – Glossary of Terms
Hammer down – hammer fully down at its final resting position.
Loaded Firearm – Any firearm with unfired round(s) in the action/chamber/magazine.
SHB p.44 – Glossary of Terms
« Last Edit: November 02, 2019, 11:10:33 AM by Tombstone »

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Re: Rule change vote
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 08:24:41 PM »
Hot off the press.

https://forums.sassnet.com/index.php?/topic/296415-wtcs-re-moving-from-lt-wcocked-rifle/

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1) Shooter stages cocked rifle with live/unfired round in the chamber.

SDQ for moving from the LT to the stage w/rifle in that condition.

SDQ for staging rifle in that condition (as soon as it leaves the shooter's hands)

= MDQ for “Two SDQ violations on the same stage” – SHB p.24

 

2) Shooter stages cocked rifle with empty chamber.

SDQ for staging the rifle with the hammer cocked (as soon as it leaves the shooter’s hands).

No additional penalty for "changing location" (moving from the LT) under the rule change.


 

3) Shooter has cocked rifle "in hand" to start.

Drop the hammer

If chamber empty = NO CALL

If chamber loaded = SDQ


 

Applicable rules:

- Staging or discarding a long gun containing a live round in the chamber (once it leaves the shooter’s hands).

- …

- Changing location/moving with a live round under a cocked hammer or firearm with the hammer down on a live round.

- Changing location with a long gun with the action closed and the hammer cocked (exception for rifle from the loading table to the stage with no round chambered).

SHB p.23 "STAGE DISQUALIFICATION PENALTY"


 

Safety & Handling Conventions – Rifles

- Rifles may be staged with the magazine loaded, action closed, hammer fully down on the empty chamber (NOT the safety notch), with the muzzle pointing in a safe direction (adheres to the 170° rule).

SHB p.15


 

Cocked – hammer not fully down (full, half-cock or safety notch).

Hammer down – hammer fully down at its final resting position.

SHB pp.44-45 “Glossary of Terms”


 
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